The Wall Live In Berlin 1990
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viděl jsem to jedinkrát, když dávali přímý přenos na tehdejší čst a otřesný dojem, který ve mě tato monstršou zanechala, přetrval až dodnes, takže dvd live in berlin jsem si doposud nepořidil a zcela jistě se tak ani v dohledné době nestane
there´s no dark side of the moon, really. matter of fact it´s all pink.
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DVD mam, ale spis bych bral ten zaznam z CT - sice jsem to videl, ale bylo to uz hrozne davno, a pamatuji si to jen utrzkovite.
Na CT to musela byt vecsi zabava - problemy se zvukem, kysela Skinhead O´Connor, bezradny Waters jak tam stoji bez zvuku a predpokladam, ze povedene komentare znalcu Pink Floyd v CT by stali za to.
To vsechno uz na DVD neni
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Na CT to musela byt vecsi zabava - problemy se zvukem, kysela Skinhead O´Connor, bezradny Waters jak tam stoji bez zvuku a predpokladam, ze povedene komentare znalcu Pink Floyd v CT by stali za to.
To vsechno uz na DVD neni
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Deutschland! Jste zapomnění nebo je to požehnání?
(Rammstein, Deutschland, Radio Tapok – cover)
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Deutschland nad námi všemi! Je to štěstí nebo prokletí?
Deutschland! Jste zapomnění nebo je to požehnání?
(Rammstein, Deutschland, Radio Tapok – cover)
Coe? On existuje záznam, kde je vidět ten výpadek proudu? Vdy Roger v tom dokumentu říká, e na tech pár minut oupli do televize záznam z předelého dne a na jeviti tu chvíli běel playback a jak ho pak právě Shinead obvinila, e ji "nutil" předstírat zpěv. Tak to musí být hodně zajímavé pokoukání, rád bych to viděl u jen abych si udělal obrázek o té scéně mezi Rogerem a O'Connor, kterou Roger tak barvitě popisuje, která ale není na DVD (taky to mohli dát do bonusů ):D
It all makes perfect sence...
Ten koncert proběhl ve dvou dnech??PetrM píše:Cože? On existuje záznam, kde je vidět ten výpadek proudu? Vždyť Roger v tom dokumentu říká, že na tech pár minut šoupli do televize záznam z předešlého dne a na jevišti tu chvíli běžel playback a jak ho pak právě Shinead obvinila, že ji "nutil" předstírat zpěv.
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Wikipedia.org ke koncertu rika:
Held in Potsdamer Platz (a location which was part of the former "no-man's land" of the Berlin Wall), this concert was even bigger than the Pink Floyd era ones, as Waters built a 550-foot long and 82-foot high wall.[1] The show had a sell-out crowd of over 200,000 people, and right before the performance started the gates were opened to the concert and an additional 100,000 to 500,000 (estimates vary) people were able to enter. The concert was also broadcast live in 35 countries, which enabled another 500 million people to watch the concert live from their homes.
The concert was staged entirely at Waters' expense, and while he subsequently earned the money back from the sale of the CD and video releases of the album, he has donated all profits past his initial investment to World War Memorial Fund for Disaster Relief. Waters stated on the first airing of the making of The Wall on In the Studio with Redbeard in July of 1989 that the only way he was to resurrect a live performance of The Wall was "if the Berlin Wall came down". A few months after the interview was broadcast, the wall came down.
Initially, Waters tried to get guest musicians like Peter Gabriel, Rod Stewart, Joe Cocker, Bruce Springsteen and Eric Clapton but they were either unavailable or turned it down. Also, on the first airing of the making of The Wall on In the Studio with Redbeard in July 1989, Waters also stated that "I might even let Dave (David Gilmour) play guitar." On June 30, 1990 backstage at the Knebworth Pink Floyd performance at Knebworth '90, David Gilmour responded to Roger's "I might let Dave play guitar" statement on an interview with Jim Ladd by saying "he and the rest of Pink Floyd (Nick Mason and Rick Wright) had been given the legal go ahead to perform with Roger but had not been contacted." A few days later, on July 2, 1990 Waters appeared on the American rock radio call-in show Rockline and contradicted his Gilmour invite by saying, "I don't know where Dave got that idea".
In the end, the guest artists for the performance included Ute Lemper, The Band, The Hooters, Van Morrison, Sinéad O'Connor, Cyndi Lauper, Marianne Faithfull, Scorpions, Joni Mitchell, Jerry Hall, Paul Carrack, Tim Curry, and Bryan Adams.
A tady - co se tam pise o tech vypadcich zvuku:
Before the beginning of the show, brief performances by The Hooters, The Band and The Chieftains (with guest James Galway) were held, but none of the songs were ever officially released.
In the actual concert on live television, the second song, "The Thin Ice" and part of the third song, "Another Brick in the Wall (Part 1)", were disrupted when a circuit breaker tripped. It was reset, but immediately tripped again so they had to rewire some equipment. Those two songs had to be re-recorded for the issue of the videotape.
The live performance of "Mother" was also hounded by a power failure. Roger Waters tried to get Sinéad O'Connor to sing her parts anyway, or mime the song, while the error was being fixed. Offended by being asked to mime, she didn't return after the show to re-record the performance (which is how "The Thin Ice" was saved for the CD/Video release.) Instead, the release version of "Mother" comes from the dress rehearsal on the previous night before the concert.
Consequently, the large projection of Gerald Scarfe's mother character that was projected on the screen during the concert cannot be seen on the video or DVD versions.
Jerry Hall was criticized for her part as the groupie in the track One of My Turns.
The Wife's part of "The Trial" had to be redone in studio, because the image of the live recording had poor quality. What is seen in the video issue is a close-up of Ute Lemper, against a dark background, lip-syncing to the original live sound.
Shot on Potsdamer Platz, the no man's land between East and West Germany, the producers didn't know if the area would be filled with mines - no one did. Before setting up, they did a sweep of the area and found a cache of munitions and a previously unknown SS Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler bunker. The Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler started as Hitler's elite personal bodyguard but were later diverted to Eastern and Western fronts. There is a misconception probably due to the SS division's name that the bunker found was the Führerbunker or the place were Adolf Hitler committed suicide which is false. The Führerbunker was in another location.[2]
At the request of the concert producers, part of the Berlin Wall was kept in place as a security fence behind the stage.
Paddy Moloney, bandleader for The Chieftains, is listed as a guest performer in the show. Although The Chieftains played a daytime set before the concert, his solo contribution to the main show remains a mystery.
During the final chanting of "Tear down the wall!" in the Trial sequence, the wall has a projection of a concrete and graffiti marked semblance of the Berlin Wall, just before it is torn down.
The live Van Morrison version of "Comfortably Numb" is used in the Martin Scorsese film The Departed.
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Mam v mp3-128Kbs zaznam z televize - tak si to prave poustim - tusim ten zvuk vypadaval casteji... tak si to poslechnu
Held in Potsdamer Platz (a location which was part of the former "no-man's land" of the Berlin Wall), this concert was even bigger than the Pink Floyd era ones, as Waters built a 550-foot long and 82-foot high wall.[1] The show had a sell-out crowd of over 200,000 people, and right before the performance started the gates were opened to the concert and an additional 100,000 to 500,000 (estimates vary) people were able to enter. The concert was also broadcast live in 35 countries, which enabled another 500 million people to watch the concert live from their homes.
The concert was staged entirely at Waters' expense, and while he subsequently earned the money back from the sale of the CD and video releases of the album, he has donated all profits past his initial investment to World War Memorial Fund for Disaster Relief. Waters stated on the first airing of the making of The Wall on In the Studio with Redbeard in July of 1989 that the only way he was to resurrect a live performance of The Wall was "if the Berlin Wall came down". A few months after the interview was broadcast, the wall came down.
Initially, Waters tried to get guest musicians like Peter Gabriel, Rod Stewart, Joe Cocker, Bruce Springsteen and Eric Clapton but they were either unavailable or turned it down. Also, on the first airing of the making of The Wall on In the Studio with Redbeard in July 1989, Waters also stated that "I might even let Dave (David Gilmour) play guitar." On June 30, 1990 backstage at the Knebworth Pink Floyd performance at Knebworth '90, David Gilmour responded to Roger's "I might let Dave play guitar" statement on an interview with Jim Ladd by saying "he and the rest of Pink Floyd (Nick Mason and Rick Wright) had been given the legal go ahead to perform with Roger but had not been contacted." A few days later, on July 2, 1990 Waters appeared on the American rock radio call-in show Rockline and contradicted his Gilmour invite by saying, "I don't know where Dave got that idea".
In the end, the guest artists for the performance included Ute Lemper, The Band, The Hooters, Van Morrison, Sinéad O'Connor, Cyndi Lauper, Marianne Faithfull, Scorpions, Joni Mitchell, Jerry Hall, Paul Carrack, Tim Curry, and Bryan Adams.
A tady - co se tam pise o tech vypadcich zvuku:
Before the beginning of the show, brief performances by The Hooters, The Band and The Chieftains (with guest James Galway) were held, but none of the songs were ever officially released.
In the actual concert on live television, the second song, "The Thin Ice" and part of the third song, "Another Brick in the Wall (Part 1)", were disrupted when a circuit breaker tripped. It was reset, but immediately tripped again so they had to rewire some equipment. Those two songs had to be re-recorded for the issue of the videotape.
The live performance of "Mother" was also hounded by a power failure. Roger Waters tried to get Sinéad O'Connor to sing her parts anyway, or mime the song, while the error was being fixed. Offended by being asked to mime, she didn't return after the show to re-record the performance (which is how "The Thin Ice" was saved for the CD/Video release.) Instead, the release version of "Mother" comes from the dress rehearsal on the previous night before the concert.
Consequently, the large projection of Gerald Scarfe's mother character that was projected on the screen during the concert cannot be seen on the video or DVD versions.
Jerry Hall was criticized for her part as the groupie in the track One of My Turns.
The Wife's part of "The Trial" had to be redone in studio, because the image of the live recording had poor quality. What is seen in the video issue is a close-up of Ute Lemper, against a dark background, lip-syncing to the original live sound.
Shot on Potsdamer Platz, the no man's land between East and West Germany, the producers didn't know if the area would be filled with mines - no one did. Before setting up, they did a sweep of the area and found a cache of munitions and a previously unknown SS Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler bunker. The Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler started as Hitler's elite personal bodyguard but were later diverted to Eastern and Western fronts. There is a misconception probably due to the SS division's name that the bunker found was the Führerbunker or the place were Adolf Hitler committed suicide which is false. The Führerbunker was in another location.[2]
At the request of the concert producers, part of the Berlin Wall was kept in place as a security fence behind the stage.
Paddy Moloney, bandleader for The Chieftains, is listed as a guest performer in the show. Although The Chieftains played a daytime set before the concert, his solo contribution to the main show remains a mystery.
During the final chanting of "Tear down the wall!" in the Trial sequence, the wall has a projection of a concrete and graffiti marked semblance of the Berlin Wall, just before it is torn down.
The live Van Morrison version of "Comfortably Numb" is used in the Martin Scorsese film The Departed.
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Mam v mp3-128Kbs zaznam z televize - tak si to prave poustim - tusim ten zvuk vypadaval casteji... tak si to poslechnu
Tolik slz. Chladná. Miluji tě i nenávidím.
Nadřazenost i svoboda. Turistika i drancování.
Deutschland nad námi všemi! Je to štěstí nebo prokletí?
Deutschland! Jste zapomnění nebo je to požehnání?
(Rammstein, Deutschland, Radio Tapok – cover)
Nadřazenost i svoboda. Turistika i drancování.
Deutschland nad námi všemi! Je to štěstí nebo prokletí?
Deutschland! Jste zapomnění nebo je to požehnání?
(Rammstein, Deutschland, Radio Tapok – cover)
Ne ne, ten den před tím to byla generálka (bez lidí), kterou ale teda evidentně natáčeli - asi kamerová zkouka - z toho je taky na DVD ta část Mother, kdy vypad proud a to (jak Roger říká) údajně pustili i do přímého přenosu. Ten jsem ale neviděl, tak nevím, dost by mě to zajímalo.Jend píše:Ten koncert proběhl ve dvou dnech??
Údajně vypad proud 2x - poprvé v Mother, podruhé krátce potom, u si nepamatuju kdy, ale zase - v tom dokumentu to Roger říká, tak to kdytak doplním pozdějcproti píše:Mam v mp3-128Kbs zaznam z televize - tak si to prave poustim - tusim ten zvuk vypadaval casteji... tak si to poslechnu
Dej vědět, jestli to v těch mp3 je, nebo jestli je to "vyretuované" jako na DVD
It all makes perfect sence...
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Muj mp3-zaznam z the Wall
- nekde z kalifornie
- porad tam komentator zblechta o "biggest show in the world" apod...
In the Flesh? - libi se mi ten tlukot srdce pocas skladby.
On the thin ice - vypadek zpevu, jde jen zvukovy podmaz a zbor "ů ů ů"
- lidi i kdyz zpev neslysi (jen instrumentalni podmaz), tak tleskaji
- muze se to brat jako " prvni instrumentalni skladba the wall"
- porad bez spevu, slyset jen publikum - uz netleska, ale piska
(trochu si vzpominam na ty bezradny pohledy Waterse - tehdy pred lety, a ted kdyz to posloucham - normalne mi sevrelo srdce - dost mi ho je lito - jak se musel v tu chvilku citit... dost blbe...
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Komentator (anglicky - ne vse rozumim) to komentuje slovy, jak tam Roger stoji pred publikem, ... ze neco podobneho se stalo pocas The Wall v L.A. - pocas druheho predstaveni - taky vypadl zvuk,
ABitW1 - cast refrenu - uz se zvuk pomalu chyta a komentator pomalu stisuje (mohl by rychleji) "we come back to it" + Advertisement
- jaksi neslyset reakci divaku - jsou az udivene ticho...
Mother - Klub duchodcu - musim sebekriticky poznamenat, ze bych to zaspival lip. - Jeden zpiva tusim "Waaarm" a druhy "Cleeeean"
Hlas O´Connor je slyset porad. Ze by teda z playbacku...
Empty Spaces - nekdo tam trochu tuka do mikrofonu
(k pokracovani)
- nekde z kalifornie
- porad tam komentator zblechta o "biggest show in the world" apod...
In the Flesh? - libi se mi ten tlukot srdce pocas skladby.
On the thin ice - vypadek zpevu, jde jen zvukovy podmaz a zbor "ů ů ů"
- lidi i kdyz zpev neslysi (jen instrumentalni podmaz), tak tleskaji
- muze se to brat jako " prvni instrumentalni skladba the wall"
- porad bez spevu, slyset jen publikum - uz netleska, ale piska
(trochu si vzpominam na ty bezradny pohledy Waterse - tehdy pred lety, a ted kdyz to posloucham - normalne mi sevrelo srdce - dost mi ho je lito - jak se musel v tu chvilku citit... dost blbe...
)Komentator (anglicky - ne vse rozumim) to komentuje slovy, jak tam Roger stoji pred publikem, ... ze neco podobneho se stalo pocas The Wall v L.A. - pocas druheho predstaveni - taky vypadl zvuk,
ABitW1 - cast refrenu - uz se zvuk pomalu chyta a komentator pomalu stisuje (mohl by rychleji) "we come back to it" + Advertisement
- jaksi neslyset reakci divaku - jsou az udivene ticho...
Mother - Klub duchodcu - musim sebekriticky poznamenat, ze bych to zaspival lip.
- Jeden zpiva tusim "Waaarm" a druhy "Cleeeean" Hlas O´Connor je slyset porad. Ze by teda z playbacku...
Empty Spaces - nekdo tam trochu tuka do mikrofonu
(k pokracovani)
Tolik slz. Chladná. Miluji tě i nenávidím.
Nadřazenost i svoboda. Turistika i drancování.
Deutschland nad námi všemi! Je to štěstí nebo prokletí?
Deutschland! Jste zapomnění nebo je to požehnání?
(Rammstein, Deutschland, Radio Tapok – cover)
Nadřazenost i svoboda. Turistika i drancování.
Deutschland nad námi všemi! Je to štěstí nebo prokletí?
Deutschland! Jste zapomnění nebo je to požehnání?
(Rammstein, Deutschland, Radio Tapok – cover)
Asi to sem úplně nepatří, ale nechtělo se mi kvůli tomu zakládat nové téma.
V jednom rozohovoru s Rogerem jsem četl, že v roce 1999 plánoval v rámci 20. výročí od vydání desky The Wall několik koncertů Zdi. I když Berlín se nedá poslouchat, je podle mě velká škoda, že druhý pokus Rogerovi nevyšel, protože složení jeho kapely v posledním desetiletí podává skvělé výkony.
V jednom rozohovoru s Rogerem jsem četl, že v roce 1999 plánoval v rámci 20. výročí od vydání desky The Wall několik koncertů Zdi. I když Berlín se nedá poslouchat, je podle mě velká škoda, že druhý pokus Rogerovi nevyšel, protože složení jeho kapely v posledním desetiletí podává skvělé výkony.
What do you mean interesting?
http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/latest/ro ... pdate.html
Bude znovu vydána The Wall z Berlína 1990, a to i ve speciální verzi 2CD a 2DVD. Pro Boha, proč zrovna tohle? Jistě, z historického hlediska zajímavé, ale to je tak všechno. Je tolik zajímavého nevydaného materiálu a pozornost se upírá tímhle směrem? Proč, Rogere, proč? Dej nám původní The Wall, nebo aspoň DVD z minulého turné. a Natoč DVD z toho současného.
Bude znovu vydána The Wall z Berlína 1990, a to i ve speciální verzi 2CD a 2DVD. Pro Boha, proč zrovna tohle? Jistě, z historického hlediska zajímavé, ale to je tak všechno. Je tolik zajímavého nevydaného materiálu a pozornost se upírá tímhle směrem? Proč, Rogere, proč? Dej nám původní The Wall, nebo aspoň DVD z minulého turné. a Natoč DVD z toho současného.
It all makes perfect sence...
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Bude to obsahovat i VHS?
... at je to skutecne pro "pametniky"...
Tolik zajimaveho a nevydaneho materialu a Roger remastruje Berlin...
... asi ho porad ten neuspech stve, nebo co...
Oh, By the Way neobsahovalo taky nic zajímavého... jednoduše nechápu.
(jediné co můžeme dělat je, že to nekoupíme, snad mu to nekoupí nikdo...)
Pressures of the marketplace haven´t civilized Roger yet.
... at je to skutecne pro "pametniky"...
Tolik zajimaveho a nevydaneho materialu a Roger remastruje Berlin...
... asi ho porad ten neuspech stve, nebo co...
Protože Roger a Floydi.PetrM píše: Proč, Rogere, proč?
Oh, By the Way neobsahovalo taky nic zajímavého... jednoduše nechápu.
(jediné co můžeme dělat je, že to nekoupíme, snad mu to nekoupí nikdo...)
Pressures of the marketplace haven´t civilized Roger yet.
Tolik slz. Chladná. Miluji tě i nenávidím.
Nadřazenost i svoboda. Turistika i drancování.
Deutschland nad námi všemi! Je to štěstí nebo prokletí?
Deutschland! Jste zapomnění nebo je to požehnání?
(Rammstein, Deutschland, Radio Tapok – cover)
Nadřazenost i svoboda. Turistika i drancování.
Deutschland nad námi všemi! Je to štěstí nebo prokletí?
Deutschland! Jste zapomnění nebo je to požehnání?
(Rammstein, Deutschland, Radio Tapok – cover)